IFO Board of Directors Meeting
REPORT
October 11-12, 2007
Present: Nancy Black, Rod Henry, John Palmer, Fred Hills, Dave Warne, Cindy Phillips, Louise Mengelkoch, Russ Stanton, Don Larsson, David Bouchard, Valerie Geaither, Jim Grabowska, Judy Kilborn, Patricia Young, Cathy Summa, Vicky Brockman, Jan Loft, Elizabeth Dunn, Derek Webb, Debra Peterson, Wayne Alexander, Mike Ruth, Georgia Holmes, Bill Ng, Donna Blake (portion of Thursday and Friday)
Also Present: Rod Henry, Connie Howard, Gary Langer, Joanne Chabot, Cynthia Mehoves, Tom O’Connell
Called to order 6:35 p.m.
September 13-14 Minutes
It was moved by Alexander and Seconded by Larsson to approve the minutes. A few changes were noted on page 6 of 13 motion to go into Executive Session. No motion to come out of Executive Session had been listed, and page 7 called to order said p.m. and should be a.m. Carried
Negotiations Update
Rod Henry, IFO Chief Negotiator, gave an update on the status of negotiations to the Board. A handout on the comparison of IFO and MnSCU opening proposals was distributed.
Motion to go into Executive Session with staff present
Palmer/Alexander 6:51 p.m.
A guest speaker, Tom O’Connell from Metro arrived. To be courteous of his time, the Board moved out of the Executive Session and postponed this discussion.
Moved out ES Alexander/Bouchard 8:15 p.m.
Archbishop Desmond Tutu Scheduled to Visit Metropolitan SU
Tom O’Connell from Metro state was present to discuss the Archbishop Desmond Tutu’s visit to Metropolitan State University in April 2008. Bouchard moved that part of the core mission of the state universities is to encourage the development of critically thinking and engaged citizens through support for dialogue that represents a broad range of perspectives on important public issues. Seconded by Geaither
Called to question to close debate. Carried.
A vote was taken on the main motion. Carried.
…Continued Graduate Faculty Compensation for Thesis Supervision
Move to go into Executive Session with staff present. 8:35 p.m. Phillips/Grabowska. Carried.
Phillips moved that the IFO go on record as disavowing the Mankato proposal to compensate faculty as an improper attempt to negotiate terms and conditions of the contract. Seconded by Dunn
Alexander called the question to vote on the motion. Carried.
Division of the motion was requested by Palmer.
The motion was divided into two parts.
That the IFO goes on the record as disavowing the Mankato proposal.
First part of the motion carried.
…to compensate faculty as an improper attempt to negotiate terms and conditions of the contract. Second part of the motion failed.
Kilborn/Alexander Move to report out the motions of executive session and we go out of executive session.
Carried 9:00 p.m.
This draft proposal was brought up to the MnSCU Graduate Council. FA Presidents were encouraged to keep in touch with their campus representatives to help keep them informed and on track with our organization.
Phillips moved that we commend the faculty of Mankato for attempting to address the inequities in compensation for graduate education and encourage them to forward their recommendation to our Negotiating Team. Seconded by Kilborn. Carried.
Board of Trustees Update
The Trustees are quite interested in this score card on accountability that they brought to Meet and Confer. It is moving forward. They are calling the first year of the score card a rehearsal. There are a lot of issues with the data and how they are presenting it.
When Nancy gave her presentation to the BOT is September she stated the most serious concern to faculty is that there were technical system problems. We still have serious issues with repeated technology failures especially in the beginning of the fall semester. Nancy also strongly addressed concerns with faculty salary and compensation.
The Legislative Audit report presented to the BOT noted a non-compliance issue with Metropolitan State for a consulting contract valued at $1.3 million. The contract did not go through the proper procedures for a consultant contract. Metro has outsourced nursing education. Tutoring is also being outsourced. Nancy encouraged the IFO Board members to take a good look at some of these consulting arrangements on their campus that are taking away teaching positions. We are also concerned with outsourcing global education as it pertains to on-line learning. There is a retreat scheduled for the Board of Trustees on October 30.
IFO Constitution
A hard copy of the IFO Constitution was provided in the Board packet for inclusion in their three-ring binder. Don Larsson, Bruce Svingen and Georgia Holmes are reviewing the Constitution. Please review your local constitutions for contradictions with the IFO Constitution.
Agenda Item for November Board Meeting
We will be adding electronic voting to the November Board agenda to get the proper procedures for the election in April.
Start/End Times of Board Meetings
Usually we go from 6:30 – 9:30 on Thursdays and resume again at 8:30 – 3 p.m. on Fridays. Lately we’ve been ending earlier because of the horrendous traffic. If we’re going to leave earlier then we need to start earlier.
Hill moved that we start on Thursdays at 6 p.m. and have a continental dinner and that will save us ½ hour and at Friday we terminate at 2:30. Seconded by Alexander.
Phillips requested to divide the question into three parts. It was noted that we stopped serving group dinners because of the cost.
A vote was taken on starting the meetings at 6 p.m. on Thursdays. A count of hands was taken – 8 in favor and 12 opposed. The motion failed.
A vote was taken on having a Thursday night continental dinner. Failed unanimously
A vote was taken on terminating the meetings at 2:30 on Fridays. Carried
Larsson moved we begin meeting on Fridays at 8 a.m. Seconded by Ruth. Carried.
Alexander moved that we limit debate to one time per person. No second, motion failed
According to Roberts Rules of Order we could limit speaking to twice, or say we’ve heard an agreeing point and if anyone has an opposing point let it be heard.
Winona Flood Relief
Winona set-up a flood relief fund for faculty. A letter of appreciation for the IFO’s $1,000 donation from President Ramaley was sent to the IFO office and a copy was provided to the IFO Board. Bruce Svingen, Winona FA President, reported that they’ve been overwhelmed by the generosity of other universities. Several of our state universities have contributed to the Winona flood relief fund. They are now asking the faculty in need to identify themselves. Depending on their needs they will be given gift cards for food and gasoline so they can shift their budget in the way that helps them the most. Bruce thanked the Board on behalf of the Winona faculty.
20th Annual Penny Fellowship Dinner Announcement
Every year we purchase a table of eight seats at this event. Board members were invited to attend on Friday, October 26. An invitation was included in the Board packet. If you are interested, contact Russ Stanton.
Nellie Stone Johnson Scholarship Dinner
We are members of the Nellie Stone Johnson Scholarship Committee. Unfortunately, their annual dinner and silent auction coincides with our 2008 Delegate Assembly. Nancy asked the Board for auction items.
Adjourned 9:30 p.m.
Board Private Email Addresses
Donna Blake reported that we can add unlimited email addresses to our IFO domain. The only issue is the spam filter (it will cost us $3.00 per month for each email address). Our IT firm said it should not be a problem for our system to handle the extra traffic. Kilborn moved we get email accounts for everyone who doesn’t have an email account and wants to have one set up by Donna Blake. Seconded by Palmer Carried
Please notify Donna if you want an account outside the university. Please let us know your outside email address if you haven’t already done so.
DSL Service for FA Offices
The IFO office pays $69.95 for high speed DSL. Does the Board want Donna Blake to investigate the cost for getting internet at the local FA offices? The Board did not direct her to investigate. It was mentioned that text messaging is also a private option for sending messages. We need a secure means of conducting our business independent of our employer so our organization can operate in the event of a crisis.
FA Support Payments
The first local support payments have been submitted via EFT for free through our Merrill Lynch online banking account. We have gotten positive feedback from the local treasurers. We are also using a new accounting method to report these payments, per our auditors.
IFO Office Lease
We are unable to purchase the current IFO office space. We are renting and our current lease expires in June 2009. The Board asked Donna to look into negotiating options for office space.
IFO Operating Procedures
New language was brought forward to the Board as recommended by the IFO Executive Committee as follows:
2. Local Equipment Expenditures
a. For each local FA office, the IFO central office shall purchase the following equipment: copy machine, fax machine, printer, scanner (may be an all-in-one unit), and shredder. In addition, the central office shall purchase any computer CPUs, monitors, and MS Office software needed by FA Presidents or office staff (not to exceed one machine per person). Such purchases shall be approved in advance by the IFO President and coordinated with the equipment replacement schedule adopted by the IFO Board of Directors. This equipment is property of the IFO. The Board shall be notified of any such purchases at its next regularly scheduled meeting.
b. The cost of repairs and/or service contracts for equipment purchased by the central IFO office shall come from the IFO budget.
d. Any other equipment or software desired by a local Association must be purchased from local FA funds. Maintenance of such equipment is the responsibility of the local FA office. Internet connectivity is the responsibility of the local FA office.
e. The IFO Controller shall keep an inventory record of all equipment at the St. Paul IFO office and Local Association offices. Each FA Treasurer should report any new equipment purchases to the IFO Controller, as well as any equipment disposals.
Alexander moved and Peterson seconded to adopt the OP changes as presented. Carried
Treasurer’s Advisory Committee (TAC)
At the September Board meeting there was a question on the lower interest rate we have on CDs. TAC met prior to the Board meeting on Thursday, October 11, to discuss this issue. Their recommendation is to hold the CDs. The CD rate we currently have is higher than the current going rate and is higher than our savings account.
August/September Financials
The financials were reviewed. The format has been changed since the last statement per the Board’s request.
Votes of No Confidence
The IFO’s outside legal counsel Connie Howard was invited to present her firm’s legal opinion on handling votes of no confidence. This was discussed at the September Board meeting. A handout was provided in the Board packet. Motion made by Dunn and seconded by Grabowska move into Executive Session. 9 a.m. Carried.
Motion by Dunn to remand this topic to the Executive Committee to bring back an Operating Procedure policy to the Board for review. Seconded by Kilborn. Carried.
Phillips moved we report out the motion and leave Executive Session. Seconded by Grabowska 9:26 a.m. Carried.
Larsson moved that the handout from Connie Howard pertaining to votes of no confidence be made available to the faculty associations for dispersal and discussion as they see fit. Seconded by Grabowska. Carried.
Meet and Confer Update
The IFO Executive Committee met with MnSCU on Friday, October 5. This was originally scheduled for October 26, but the Chancellor cancelled. A handout on a travel policy was given in the Board packet. This will be handled at the next statewide meet and confer on November 30. It has something to do with requirements for driver’s licenses and other issues (Mary Leary should send this to Nancy electronically).
The agenda from October 5 was reviewed.
Executive Committee Update
The Executive Committee met for a few hours on the morning of Friday, October 5. The EC is meeting next on October 25-26.
MnOnline has many subcommittees that we are unaware of like tutoring. Jan Loft just got an email from her university from Kris Kaplan to host workshops on her campus for November 15-16 on handling disruptive students.
MnSCU Outsourcing
Bouchard moved that we make a request to MnSCU for an inventory of all outsourcing. Seconded by Geaither Carried
Apparently there is an allotted amount of hours set aside for each institution for outsourcing. Who is using this service? It seems that it is mostly by the community or technical colleges or the tutoring centers. The faculty aren’t aware of this. Nancy did make a written request for this information from Bill Tschida on all consultants paid over $5,000 per year. This will be put on the EC agenda and we’ll get back to you.
IFO Benefits Equity Committee
We have one at-large vacancy on this committee. Susan Rydell from Metro volunteered but Nancy noted that she is going to be on sabbatical next semester. Deb Peterson from Bemidji who is also on the Board volunteered. A vote was taken, and Deb Peterson was appointed.
Web Registration Re-Design
Cynthia Mehoves, Joanne Chabot, and Gary Langer were invited to give a presentation on student web registration to the IFO Board. Ms. Mehoves gave a PowerPoint presentation. The look and feel of registration has changed. There is a help video on each page and a new search feature. This system is able to handle the prerequisite feature. There is no connection with DARS. Transfer and advising implications were discussed. MnSCU has several technology committees that should be discussing this new system and faculty should have input. The registrars are not conferring with their faculty – this was never discussed. The other issue is that graduate credits do not transfer. You need to consult faculty before the development phase with projects like this takes place. There is an issue of training and keeping faculty informed. A Board member asked for the PowerPoint presentation to be available on the web so faculty can have a better idea of what to expect. Ms. Mehoves stated that working groups met over several months to developing these features - they are representative groups. Board members asked about faculty entry points to enable them to help students? MnSCU representatives encouraged Board members to speak to their registrars. The faculty entry point uses locally determined links. Faculty want more coordinated efforts. The MnSCU representatives were told if something like this arises in the future, the IFO Board of Directors is the group they should consult with for representatives.
Textbook Pilot Project Review Taskforce
Two volunteers were needed for this new taskforce. Don Larsson volunteered and was appointed. If faculty association presidents have any other volunteers, please send the name forward to Nancy Black or Cindy Finch.
MnSCU Degree Credit Cap Taskforce
Five volunteers were needed for this new taskforce. The duration of this taskforce is less than one year according to MnSCU and the legislative directive. Names that came forward were Grover Cleveland (Metro), Steve Kramer (SW), Rhonda Bonnstetter (SW), Kate Smith (Bemidji), Shawn Ellingboe (Moorhead), Wil Shynkaruk (Moorhead), and John Benson (Moorhead). The Board appointed the following volunteers based on a variety of backgrounds:
Metro – Cleveland Business/Accounting
Bemidji – Smith/Education
SW – Kramer/Philosophy/LA
Moorhead – Shynkaruk/Art
Winona – Cathy Summa/Science/IFO Academic Affairs Coordinator
SCSU and Mankato have a special interest in Nursing and Engineering and requested more time to find volunteers. Nancy told them to bring any names forward.
A motion was made by Phillips to appoint the above five names. Seconded by Bouchard. Carried.
Transfer Oversight Committee
There are four positions open on this MnSCU committee. Four faculty volunteered: Monte Bute (Metro), Brian Donovan (Bemidji), Anne O’Meara (Mankato), and Leann Jorgensen (St. Cloud) and were appointed to serve a two year term.
Assessment for Course Placement Committee
Four volunteers were requested (3 from ESL/English and one from math). No volunteers came forward. Nancy asked faculty association to please go back to your campuses and ask for volunteers. This will be brought to the next Board meeting.
Academic and Student Affairs Policy Council
One volunteer was needed and one volunteer came forward. Bev Hill (Metro) was appointed to serve a two year term on this MnSCU Council. Alexander/Bouchard Carried
Center for Teaching and Learning Steering Committee
One volunteer was needed and two volunteers came forward: Daniel Wildeson (SCSU) and Jane McConnell (Mankato). The Board took a vote. Jane McConnell was appointed to serve a two year term.
The IFO has made repeated requests to MnSCU for seven seats on this Committee. Dunn moved we appoint a representative from each campus for the CTL Steering Committee. Seconded by Grabowksa. Carried. Nancy will follow-up on this.
Graduate Council Appointments
Each university has a seat on this Council. The following faculty were appointed by the local faculty associations and endorsed by the IFO Board of Directors to serve a two year term: Christina Kippenhan (Bemidji), Lisa Heinrich (St. Cloud), Raphael Onyeaghala (Southwest), Jean Karjala (Winona).
COPE Appointments
Each university has a seat on the COPE committee. The following faculty were appointed by the local faculty associations and endorsed by the IFO Board of Directors to serve a two year term: Steve Reuter (Mankato), Jo Anne Glasgow (Southwest), Vince Vohnout (Bemidji), and Melanie Reap (Winona).
Director Government Relations Report
Russ reported that the GRC has not met since the last Board meeting but will meet again on November 1-2 in conjunction with the Academic Affairs Committee. At that time the GRC will develop their legislative goals for the next legislative session.
Russ also reported that House Higher Education Committee Chair Tom Rukavina is touring the campuses to listen to their concerns. The House and Senate Capital Investment (bonding) Committees are also touring the campuses to view potential bonding projects that will be considered next session.
Open enrollment for participants in the State Employee Group Insurance Plan begins on October 25 and ends on November 7. Russ provided detailed information on the informational meetings faculty will want to attend. He will also publish an article in the upcoming faculty Update newsletter.
Recently there have been news stories that TIAA-CREF has investments in over 60 companies doing business in Sudan. At least 15 of these companies have direct ties that benefit the Sudanese government. Russ asked TIAA-CREF for information and they sent him a letter that they issued in response to a resolution by the University of Arkansas. Russ also brought this matter before the Defined Contribution Retirement (DCR) Advisory Committee that met on October 11. They said they did not have any of the CREF Social Choice money in Sudan, but most of the other equity funds probably did have investments in Sudan. Russ requested a list of companies doing business in Sudan held by each of the IRAP/SRP investment funds – including the Vanguard Funds and the other non-TIAA-CREF mutual funds. Faculty should know where their money is being invested. A motion was made by Geaither that Russ follow through by requesting a list of the companies for each of the funds that handle investments in Sudan seconded by Grabowska. Carried.
MnSCU IT
David Bouchard reported that D2L has been operating at 99.1% whereas in years past it’s been 99.4-6%. Lack of purging and archiving functions are the issues we have now. MnSCU is inviting the U of M who uses a multi-platform to discuss this. David is involved with the redesigning of the IT committees over the next week with Al Essa. Respondus issues with time-outs, security issues, and costs were briefly discussed.
MSUSA Financial Aid Survey
Students are asking the faculty if they can come to their classes and give a brief presentation to their students lasting 5-10 minutes. They will hand out a financial aid survey (copy enclosed in Board packet). The students want to take the results to the legislature. They want the IFO to send out an email to faculty to encourage their participation. Board members expressed possible data privacy issues with the survey that should first be referred to the Institutional Review Board (IRB) for approval. Phillips moved we endorse the survey and encourage our faculty to cooperate after the appropriate review process has occurred on the campuses. Seconded by Kilborn. Carried.
CTL Teaching Awards
Each campus is individually able to participate in the teaching awards. It was reported that currently three campuses have declined to participate, one campus has tabled the issue, and three have not responded.
Membership Report
Cindy Finch gave a membership report. She told the Board that in the near future she will be investigating membership incentives and will be contacting our sister unions to see what incentives they offer.
Since the last Board meeting, 27 faculty have joined the IFO for a total of 157 new members for the year. So far we have 418 new faculty.
Untabled Motion for Bemidji State University
Geaither moved that we take the BSU motion from last February off the table. Seconded by Kilborn Carried
As reported in the March 29-20, 2007 approved Board minutes: At the February 8-9, 2007 Board meeting a motion brought forward by Bemidji was tabled until more information could be brought to the Board. Elizabeth Dunn reported that there is enough evidence that this has happened but no new information was offered. This item is still on the table as follows: “The Bemidji State University Faculty Association reprehends the use of deadly force by government forces against unarmed student protesters at the University of Buea in Cameroon on the 29th of November, 2006, the suppression of funeral observances for the slain, and the near-total silence of international media regarding these events.”
Substitute motion was offered by Geaither who moved that the IFO Board go on the record in support of the protection of students anywhere, worldwide, whose rights of free speech and expression are abridged by authorities, as in the recent case brought to our attention of the students at the University of Buea in Cameroon. Seconded by Kilborn. Carried
Pat’s Report
Pat gave a grievance report with names omitted.
The Feminist Issues Committee is targeting November 9, 2007 for their first meeting. Campus representatives from Metro, Moorhead, St. Cloud, Southwest and Winona are still needed.
The Board authorized the offering of Feminist Issues Committee grant at $5,000 beginning May 1, 2008. Peterson/Grabowska. Carried.
The Multicultural Issues Committee will meet on November 30. Campus representatives from Bemidji, Metro, and Winona are still needed.
The FY06 Salary Study is in the dissemination of results phase and the joint IFO MnSCU Salary Review Committee needs to consider what remedy should be applied to address the results. Campus visits by the Sibson Consulting team are in the process of being scheduled on November 5, 6, 12 and 13, 2007.
A motion was made to move into Executive Session with staff present. Grabowska/Dunn 1:57 p.m. Carried.
A motion was made at 2:02 to move out of Executive Session Alexander/Berg. Carried.
The Office of the Chancellor requested that the IFO appoint two representatives to serve on the planning committee for the (first) diversity awards program. They are scheduled to meet on November 2. Kilborn moved that we ask the IFO GLBTA, FIC, MIC to each provide one rep to serve on this committee and we will ask Whitney Harris if we can have three representatives instead of two. Seconded by Phillips. Carried.
If you know of any one who is part of the tuition waiver for the doctoral programs, please let Pat know. We expect that faculty who are in these programs will receive the tuition waiver.
Academic Affairs Report
Louise Mengelkoch, IFO Academic Affairs Co-Coordinator, prepared a written report that was passed out. Louise reported on the status of the Graduate Council, Transfer Oversight Committee, and the Academic and Student Affairs Policy Council.
Cathy Summa, IFO Academic Affairs Co-Coordinator, presented a handout. Cathy reported on the status of the Board of Trustees Teaching Awards, CTL Steering Committee, Biosciences Work Group, Assessment for Course Placement, Academic and Student Affairs Policy Council and teacher licensure issues. She also gave a handout on the BioBusiness Alliance of Minnesota (regarding the Biosciences Work Group). There will be an RFP process near the end of the year and the U of M wants to work with us.
A Board member asked if we put the AAC board reports on the website.
IFO Staff Negotiations
The IFO is currently negotiating with the staff. First proposals have been exchanged. The Personnel Committee is meeting directly after this meeting back at the IFO office. Our next meeting with the staff is scheduled for Friday, October 26.
Executive Session
A motion was made to move into Executive Session. Alexander/Webb 2:27. Carried.
Motion to move out of executive session. Alexander/Warne 2:50. Carried.
MnOnline Data Request
We have not yet received the information we requested yet from MnOnline, and we will keep following up on that.
Second Life
Second life is still a matter of discussion. Mike Ruth has provided some helpful links on Second Life and has also volunteered to give a brief background discussion to the Board.
Campus Reports
Metro: Presidential search is taking place, received a letter that President Davenport (Mankato) is chairing the search committee that is meeting on the 16th and the search will begin on November 8. Consultation problems on the campus - taking place after the decision. They stopped the vice provost and graduate dean position from moving forward because there was not proper consultation. A number of ongoing issues with the nursing program including outsourcing seem to revolve around this program. In spite of the reinstatement of Archbishop Tutu’s invitation at St. Thomas, he is coming to Metro.
Bemidji: A handout was given. Bemidji voted not to participate in the BOT Teaching Award Program. The Office of the Chancellor is advising BSU that two courses they offer should not be part of the MN Transfer Curriculum – the only basis they have used for judgment is course prefixes. Concern has been expressed regarding the spending priorities of the OOC technology budget. With the recent technology takeback on their campus, faculty are not able to keep up with software and equipment purchases of the students. The faculty have been asked by the Provost to consider two proposals for college reorganization. Continue to have difficulty with the position of Association Dean assuming department chair duties. Division I hockey continues to be a source of consternation.
Southwest: Recently contributed to the Winona flood relief fund, acted on the 40 credits upper division courses a graduation requirement for fall 2008, working with administration on position requests and inquired on the national search of two interim dean positions – student association asked if they could have a faculty liaison – faculty member Doug Simon will be serving between the two associations. Meet and confers are going well, academic affairs people are working on an academic honesty policy – if they want a legal review on a few terms, where do they look? Recently conducted PDP workshops for new faculty.
Winona: Successful bonding building for counseling services, student health, and physical education services - $18 million project, with $3 million from private funds. Continue to struggle with the all university committee structures of the administration. The calendar the administration brought forward was not the same as the MnSCU common calendar including working on Christmas Eve. 25 faculty searches going on, grieved on fixed term searches and they will convert 3 positions over 3 years. The campus is not providing laptops to all fixed term or adjunct faculty. How can you perform your job if you don’t have a laptop? The administration said ‘share them.’
St. Cloud: Has a new president, agreed to a five-step work plan with the faculty association (grievance process, diversity, pdp, pdr process, article 22 – clean up local processes and make it contractual). Has learned that MnSCU doesn’t have a diversity plan.
Mankato: Rukavina was on campus and that went well. New development of online curriculum proposal, a few weeks ago met with nurses and engineers, will meet again next week prior to each meet and confer – big issue was infrastructure and projected enrollment growth. Has one grievance with a settlement – waiting on the grievant – has a new process for approval of RFPs and contracts that hopefully give faculty adequate input on contracts that affect academic issues (i.e. bookstore, foodservice). Grade appeal issue is in the final stage – this started in the office of disability services. Payment for PSEO mentors, registrar issue with mid-term grade reports and how to make those more useful. Validation of faculty liberal worded free speech campus demonstration policy.
Moorhead: We’ve been pushing our admin on the MN transfer, revisions are due and we have our signature Dragon Core - our new liberal studies, our administration was ignoring aspects without consulting with any of the departments who want to be MN Transfer curriculum, it would appear there was no intent to list anything but Dragon Core. Has a dean leaving; they may promote the associate dean - not as interim but as the dean. Dealing with more letters dealing with behavior (first going into the dean’s file, then it would be sent to personnel which is where we could deal with it as a letter of reprimand).
Alexander/Webb Adjourn 2:56p.m. Carried.